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Anam's avatar

omg love all your writing and this one so much! soooo fun to read and i think deeply fascinating how quickly the demure has become immediately detached from the queer trans ironic origins and straight into a reification of normative feminitity, its so hard to watch and I think extremely apt for this political moment in which historical genealogy is so neglected (liberal individualistic coconut pilled vs historical materialist internationalist coconut tree), which is why I so appreciate your research work and think it is deeply important. Mannersmaxxing is sooooooooo good, reminded me of two things, both the need for the expansion of "the trend", and thus corporate power into more and more minute fractions of our lives in order to continue the rate of accumulation, and an acknowledgement of the surveillance culture we live in where policing one's body becomes an internal behavior. I'm so curious also what the intensification of class aspiration through mannersmaxxing means for the economy. Feeling like Jaden Smith political and economic state of the world rn!! That being said, I would love to learn how to play bridge and arrange flowers.

Also when I grow up i want to be as brave as your sister <3

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Zoë's avatar

WHEW! this is everything I wanted to read & more. so glad you name that the “golden rule” & similar rules “were instruments of violence” & “tools of misogyny and racism.” A lot of the etiquette pieces here & elsewhere fail to recognize that (unsurprisingly)

I forget who told me this, but it was in the context of mental health support: treat people how THEY want to be treated. A much better maxim to live by, imo

Such an excellent read (also loved your sister’s insights at the end!!)

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