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writers like you remind me that fashion is so much more than designers and status symbols with four digit price tags. it affects and informs every part of our lives, if only we’re curious enough to dig into it. thank you for taking the time and effort to write this!! <3

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You’ve done such a great job researching and writing about this topic, thank you! Sending it to lots of people because it provokes such interesting reflection.

Part of that reflection (for me) is thinking about the idea of “dupes versus knockoffs” and how the cultural stance on “knockoffs” has changed from one of shame (remember the Samantha Fake Fendi Sex and the City episode?) to one of subversion and cleverness (“oh you stuck it to the rich French conglomerate! And saved money, you’re thrifty!”) We no longer universally consider it moral to buy the “real version” — the culture has a stronger anti-large-corporation stance. We recognize that even the large corp has sourced its ideas from somewhere (it exists in the context of everything that has come before…🙃) We are collectively aware, more than we ever have before, that even the famous design houses that are scared of IP theft often commit outright IP theft themselves from subcultures without the means to scale their visions. You can really see that cultural shift via a 2007 New Yorker article about a lawyer who “hunts down counterfeiters.” I consider it progress, however minimal it may be, that it felt jarring to see a New Yorker article talk about Chinese people that way. The article [1] only dared to pose this question as an aside: “[Some people] suggested that he was doing something bad, putting helpless immigrants and desperate Chinese laborers out of work for the sake of making a bunch of rich French people richer. Harley could tell himself that he was protecting the real against the fake, but then he thought back to when he was a kid, before brands got so important—when, as he remembered it, people used basic, generic goods, when a sneaker was just a sneaker. Compared to that basic thingness, brands themselves seemed fake.”

To some extent, it’s also worth noting that the Canal St sellers aren’t actually cannibalizing the big design house’s customers and that they need each other. They’re in a strange symbiosis. The Canal St sellers need the luxury houses for product marketing (making a certain style or brand popular with consumers.) The big luxury houses actually view the Canal St sellers as a means to measure their cultural caché. No wonder they’re opening stores on Canal St. It was kinda surprising for me to read this from the Diesel founder: “Rosso himself has never purchased anything on Canal Street, but he often visits to see which are the most copied. “If someone copies you it means that your brand is worthy and top of mind with consumers,” he said. “It’s a sort of real-life market research.””

But while I agree that the “real” goods are also flawed, I disagree that they’re morally equivalent on two fronts. The first is in regard to labor: yes, both might have terrible labor conditions, but a very “legible” and concentrated target in the form of a large luxury house is a much better foe for a government or even an activist consumer base that a more “illegible” and grassroots network in the Pacific Rim. I don’t think that all of these operations are sweet small businesses — maybe some are, but the factories and the production behind some of these sellers is immense. I think it is very likely that without making claims on the current state of labor practices, it’s easier to protest/regulate the Big Corp to fix the issues.

The second is in regard to climate: I think the big fashion houses are better targets for regulators here too. The recent EU regulation CSRD is certainly going to push much more rigorous standards on them in a way that isn’t possible for some of these other operations that are operating more “off the grid.” I get why this is the case, and more power to them, but from a climate perspective, the big fashion houses have to consider materials innovation or supply chain innovation to make this all work. They’ve also been leaning into “sustainability” as a luxury concept (this might actually be true, given that climate change will mainly impact the global south…) which is in equal parts laudable at the individual entity level and problematic societally. It’s probably accurate to say that you will be “carbon neutral” if not negative (in a genuine, science-backable sense) with many luxury purchases in a way you will not with the other goods that may be produced and sold as “dupes” or knockoffs.

Ultimately, I’d say the issue that complicates both of these things for me — something both Canal Sts share — is related to over-consumption and logo obsession. Hard to think about that too.

Thanks again — really thought provoking!

1. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/03/19/bag-man

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